Originally Posted by CincoDeMayo

You said the “union painted us into a corner with FO rates” and that’s an ridiculous thing to say.
You seem to think that what I am saying is somehow disparaging to the union, nothing further from the truth. I even stated I can see why it was negotiated that way at the time, it made sense. It does however complicate things now due to attrition, shortages and the majors hiring. Sure we can agree it’s up to the company to solve the hiring problem but at the end of the day the union will decide how the pilot budget is divided up. We have a sloped scale on the top end and a punishing cap on the low end. Once upgrades slow down there will be issues.
Do we need better pay rates across the board, yes
Did the union cause FOs to leave because of the pay rates, no.
Again, I never said the union causes pilots to leave, stop projecting whatever issue you have on me.
75% aprox of the pilot group voted for that
It made sense at the time, again something I mentioned.
Want better pay rates? Do does 3000 Spirit pilots and 1800 Frontier pilots. There is a process. If the company wants to pay more in the meantime, there is a process. The Union didn’t paint anyone into a corner, 75% of pilots said “yup, good to me.”
Never disagreed with this and I never mentioned any short term solution. I nearly stated that we need to get better pay rates and that the rates agreed upon at the time, which made sense then, are hindering now.
You have been here a minute and that same Union is the same one that passed the LOA that allowed you to stay on property instead of collecting an unemployment check.
Actually I have been here less than that.
So if you don’t like my response, so be it. I’ll see you at the picketing events.
It has nothing to do with liking or not liking your response. Rather, I feel you took what I said the wrong way and went off in some rant.