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Old 02-26-2022 | 06:32 AM
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Originally Posted by emersonbiguns
We have no idea about a year from now. Could be worse/better/same.

The nice (or not so bad) thing is, we both have tolerable contracts that will allow us to hold out longer than previous. I don't think an evil-genius plan to build a super ULCC is a "long game" concept. The longer the execution takes, the more time the competition has to end run the plan.
Absolutely. This is not some scheme that ALPA put together to end run negotiations, this is something that I have no doubt the two managements spent months or years working on behind the scenes and legitimately believe will be a money-maker for the combined companies. They initiated it, they want it, they believe in it. And it actually makes sense, there are economies of scale that will be profitable, it helps to solve IROPS problems, and will expand our customer base and market share two ways; both attracting pax who would have otherwise either not been traveling at all or using alternate means than flying, and peeling off value minded pax from the Big Four.

In this environment, they weren’t stupid enough to think the pilots unions weren’t going to make financial gains with the next CBA anyway, this just puts pressure on them to not use the typical drag-it-out-as-long-as-we-can-at-the-old-rates tactics that they tend to use. Is it necessarily a win for the pilot group(s)? Nope, but like the current pilot shortage, it gives the unions additional leverage for both monetary and QOL improvements.

I simply don’t understand the ‘woe is us” coming from some posters over this and I have to seriously question if a few of them aren’t shills for management intentionally trying to lower expectations. This ought to be about the easiest damn SLI in history. Right now at NK a newbie can get their base of preference pretty much out of training. That pretty much means the bottom half of the seniority list has little if anything to worry about. I suppose at the very top of the list there might be conflict, but I seriously doubt that someone who has been living in ACY for the last quarter century is going to find some urgent need to displace someone who has been living for the last quarter century in Denver.

And right now while Sprontier is quickly expanding a lot of what might have been profits is going to be going into growth, an excellent time to hit the company for profit sharing which - because the company won’t be realizing much profit - won’t cost them all that much but will lock in pilot gains when the expansion is complete. The same thing for wage gains. If they claim the merger is going to be too costly to allow much increase we simply strongly backload gains in pay scales into DOS+1 or 2 where the management is telling shareholders and the SEC alike that those fruits of consolidation are waiting.

No gripes against those that want to go elsewhere (especially if you are senior to me). Good luck and I hope it works out for you. Just don’t badmouth the merger or the chances of obtaining a better contract here as your rationale for doing it, because the opportunities here have frankly never looked better.

This is a time of opportunity for the pilot group. We OUGHT to have high expectations. It’s on us if we settle for less.
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