VH's are more overrated than the Telex 850. Cut Above makes a great stretchable fitted shirt that is more comfortable when properly fitted (we do move after all) and is a little thicker, however they've had some QC issues and IMO don't last as long. A fitted Cut Above shirt is more comfortable and wrinkle resistant than an equivalent non fitted VH that you have to tuck in like a reserve parachute because they apparently think if you have a normal sized neck and do 10 pushups a year you must have a 50+ inch waist.