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Old 05-19-2022 | 06:07 AM
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Originally Posted by buddies8
That would require the union not being owned by mgt first.
I’m beginning to fear you’re correct.

look, the MEC should redraft the QOL LOA into two separate LOA’s.
one with all the QOL stuff, and the other with just PBS.
they should return the QOL LOA as MEC approved and ratified, and the PBS one as posted pending pilot group approval since it’s a significant change to both work rules and compensation.

if it’s such a great thing for the pilots, let the company explain why they won’t approve QOL without PBS.

the answer is because it’s a huge concession

by the way, PBS is a significant change to both work rules and compensation and as such the Envoy MEC by-laws require a pilot vote.

if something as large as this package can be MEC ratified without a pilot vote then when would they ever be required to let you vote.

tesmsters airline group went through this crap and eliminated the ratification of anything without a pilot vote. Guess what, we still get all the little improvements as the shortage worsens too. It’s the lazy ALPA lawyers telling the MEC they can ratify instead of pilot vote because in the lawyers words “you, the MEC, decides what - significant change - means.” Most abused by-law language in the book

if you’re an outstanding lawyer you do 1 high profile case a year (OJ type lawyer)
if you’re a great lawyer you make it big in business and international law
if you’re a really good lawyer you join a successful firm
if you’re a good lawyer you start your own firm doing everything from tort to probable law.
If you’re just an average lawyer you become a ADA or public defender
if you can’t even do that, you become a labor union lawyer or enter politics.
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