Originally Posted by
Round Luggage
If I put an order in for a 737max, which year would I receive it? Calls on ERJ! The same airline could go to Brazil and order as many E-295s as they want with thousands of regional airline pilots already typed on the aircraft.
I don’t think you get it. It’s not like Embraer has e-195s on the shelf in six packs for sale either.
Brazilian aerospace manufacturer Embraer has announced its aircraft orders and deliveries data for the first quarter of 2022.
During the first three months of 2022, Embraer delivered a total of 14 aircraft, including six commercial and eight executive jets.
Commercial aircraft deliveries in Q1 2022 included four Embraer E175s, two Embraer E195-E2s. Meanwhile, executive jets included five Phenom 300s, two Praetor 600s, and one Phenom 100 jet.
In the orders and deliveries report, Embraer revealed that its firm order backlog of 315 aircraft totaled US$17.3 billion as of March 31, 2022. Embraer’s commercial aviation firm order backlog currently consists of 166 E195-E2s, 143 E175s, three E190-E2s, and three E190 passenger jets.
According to Embraer, executive jet sales continued to grow in Q1 2022.
In February 2022, Embraer announced a three-year delay to its Embraer E175-E2 jet development program.
The plane maker attributed the delay to “the ongoing US mainline scope clause discussions with the pilot unions regarding the maximum take-off weight limitation for aircraft with up to 76 seats, as well as global market conditions for commercial aviation and continued interest in the current E175 jet in the North American market”.
The E175-E2 flew its maiden flight in December 2019 and was initially scheduled to enter service in 2021. The company now sees the E175-E2 jet entering service between 2027 and 2028.
In 2021, Embraer delivered a total of 141 jets, comprising 48 commercial aircraft and 93 executive jets.
And it
doesn’t matter if thousands of regional pilots are Emb -170-190 typed (as am I BTW) because they’d still have to go through the whole training program on the new certificate anyway. I’d grant you that their training risk would be low, but damn few newbies wash out of training at any major anyway. Nor could they restrict the newbies to that aircraft, they would have to use the existing CBA (or a negotiated JCBA) and whatever SLI the mediator decided was appropriate.
Look, it’s clear you are simply ignorant of a lot of this. That’s no crime - we all start there - but you really ought to research the reality a little bit before making hopelessly naive suggestions. Moreover, encouraging yourself and others to count on some fantasy might impair you and others from doing what actually WILL work. This is a time of nearly unparalleled opportunity for anyone with an ATP if they actually work at it, getting the hours and doing the things that historically have worked will let them get to a major more reliably and quicker than in recent history.
Hoping to sort of back your way into a major because they are short of trainers and you have a type they don’t particularly desire (JetBlue is getting rid of their 190s and AA retired theirs a couple years ago
https://www.avitrader.com/2020/05/01...ng-767-fleets/) ain’t going to be your path to success at a major and you are ill- informed or foolish to believe otherwise.