Originally Posted by 13pro

First, you are not who you say you are. In new hire training??? BS. No one in new hire at their first regional talks about the industry the way you do.

Second, you are correct. Endeavor is a great company. I have had nothing but good experience here. BUT, and this is a big but, that means nothing. When I was looking for my first 121 job, I had offers at Piedmont, PSA, and Endeavor. I choose endeavor for 1 reason. And 1 reason only. Money. I didn’t know anything about work rules, reserve life, or even what the difference between a CRJ and an ERJ was. But I did know that Endeavor paid significantly more than the others. Secondarily, AA was my #1 choice for mainline job at the time. I knew going to an AA WO with a flow wasn’t the best way to get to AA. Fast forward to today, and that last statement is more true than ever. And our pay is a fraction of the AA WOs. If I was in the same shoes today as I was back then, I’d go to an AA WO and then jump to DL when able.

Endeavor has a huge problem now. There is 0 reason to come here unless you live in one of our bases. If Delta is your goal, you’re a fool to come here. If AA is your goal, maybe it makes sense, except that you’ll lose a ton of pay over the next 2 years, as well as in 5 years if you aren’t at AA via flow, you’ll instantly make TOS CA pay until you flow.

We will have 50% less new hire pilots within a month if management doesn’t do something. We’ll also probably lose 20% or more junior FOs.