1- carbon offsets feed the extremists, not mitigates them.

2- If SAF works and is a better option, then it should absolutely be used, because it's the better option. Not because of a mandate or other such nonsense.

Facts and science have nothing to do with it. If it did, the entire enviro-extremist crap wouldn't even be discussed by the average person. Facts don't matter in today's discourse and policy creation. You apparently haven't figured that out yet.

Here is a list of scientists who signed a letter in 2008 calling out the enviro-extremists:

https://www.academia.edu/23481428/Wi...acts_are_clear


"We, the undersigned scientists, maintain that the case for alarm regarding climate change is grossly overstated. Surface temperature changes over the past century have been episodic and modest and there has been no net global warming for over a decade now. After controlling for population growth and property values, there has been no increase in damages from severe weather-related events. The computer models forecasting rapid temperature change abjectly fail to explain recent climate behavior."

NOVEMBER 19, 2008

“ “ PAID FOR BY THE CATO INSTITUTE, WWW.CATO.ORG 1. Swanson, K.L., and A. A. Tsonis. Geophysical Research Letters, in press: DOI:10.1029/2008GL037022. 2. Brohan, P., et al. Journal of Geophysical Research, 2006: DOI: 10.1029/2005JD006548. Updates at Temperature data (HadCRUT, CRUTEM,, HadCRUT5, CRUTEM5) Climatic Research Unit global temperature. 3. Pielke, R. A. Jr., et al. Bulletin of the American Meteorological Society, 2005: DOI: 10.1175/BAMS-86-10-1481. 4. Douglass, D. H., et al. International Journal of Climatology, 2007: DOI: 10.1002/joc.1651.

Signed:

SYUN AKUSOFU, PH.D UNIVERSITY OF ALASKA ARTHUR G. ANDERSON, PH.D DIRECTOR OF RESEARCH, IBM (RETIRED) CHARLES R. ANDERSON, PH.D ANDERSON MATERIALS EVALUATION J. SCOTT ARMSTRONG, PH.D UNIVERSITY OF PENNSYLVANIA ROBERT ASHWORTH CLEARSTACK LLC ISMAIL BAHT, PH.D UNIVERSITY OF KASHMIR COLIN BARTON CSIRO (RETIRED) DAVID J. BELLAMY, OBE THE BRITISH NATURAL ASSOCIATION JOHN BLAYLOCK LOS ALAMOS NATIONAL LABORATORY (RETIRED) EDWARD F. BLICK, PH.D UNIVERSITY OF OKLAHOMA (EMERITUS) SONJA BOEHMER-CHRISTIANSEN, PH.D UNIVERSITY OF HULL BOB BRECK AMS BROADCASTER OF THE YEAR 2008 JOHN BRIGNELL UNIVERSITY OF SOUTHAMPTON (EMERITUS) MARK CAMPBELL, PH.D U.S. NAVAL ACADEMY ROBERT M. CARTER, PH.D JAMES COOK UNIVERSITY IAN CLARK, PH.D PROFESSOR, EARTH SCIENCES UNIVERSITY OF OTTAWA, OTTAWA, CANADA ROGER COHEN, PH.D FELLOW, AMERICAN PHYSICAL SOCIETY PAUL COPPER, PH.D LAURENTIAN UNIVERSITY (EMERITUS) PIERS CORBYN, MS WEATHER ACTION RICHARD S. COURTNEY, PH.D REVIEWER, INTERGOVERNMENTAL PANEL ON CLIMATE CHANGE UBERTO CRESCENTI, PH.D PAST-PRESIDENT, ITALIAN GEOLOGICAL SOCIETY SUSAN CROCKFORD, PH.D UNIVERSITY OF VICTORIA JOSEPH S. D’ALEO FELLOW, AMERICAN METEOROLOGICAL SOCIETY JAMES DEMEO PH.D UNIVERSITY OF KANSAS (RETIRED) DAVID DEMING, PH.D UNIVERSITY OF OKLAHOMA DIANE DOUGLAS, PH.D PALEOCLIMATOLOGIST DAVID DOUGLASS, PH.D UNIVERSITY OF ROCHESTER ROBERT H. ESSENHIGH E.G. BAILEY EMERITUS PROFESSOR OF ENERGY CONVERSION THE OHIO STATE UNIVERSITY CHRISTOPHER ESSEX, PH.D UNIVERSITY OF WESTERN ONTARIO

JOHN FERGUSON, PH.D UNIVERSITY OF NEWCASTLE UPON TYNE (RETIRED) EDUARDO FERREYRA ARGENTINIAN FOUNDATION FOR A SCIENTIFIC ECOLOGY MICHAEL FOX, PH.D AMERICAN NUCLEAR SOCIETY GORDON FULKS, PH.D GORDON FULKS AND ASSOCIATES LEE GERHARD, PH.D STATE GEOLOGIST, KANSAS (RETIRED) GERHARD GERLICH, PH.D TECHNISCHE UNIVERSITAT BRAUNSCHWEIG IVAR GIAEVER, PH.D NOBEL LAUREATE, PHYSICS ALBRECHT GLATZLE, PH.D SCIENTIFIC DIRECTOR, INTTAS (PARAGUAY) WAYNE GOODFELLOW, PH.D UNIVERSITY OF OTTAWA JAMES GOODRIDGE CALIFORNIA STATE CLIMATOLOGIST (RETIRED) LAURENCE GOULD, PH.D UNIVERSITY OF HARTFORD VINCENT GRAY, PH.D NEW ZEALAND CLIMATE COALITION WILLIAM M. GRAY, PH.D COLORADO STATE UNIVERSITY KENNETH E. GREEN, D.ENV. AMERICAN ENTERPRISE INSTITUTE KESTEN GREEN, PH.D MONASH UNIVERSITY WILL HAPPER, PH.D PRINCETON UNIVERSITY HOWARD C. HAYDEN, PH.D UNIVERSITY OF CONNECTICUT (EMERITUS) BEN HERMAN, PH.D UNIVERSITY OF ARIZONA (EMERITUS) MARTIN HERTZBERG, PH.D. U.S. NAVY (RETIRED) DOUG HOFFMAN, PH.D AUTHOR, THE RESILIENT EARTH BERND HUETTNER, PH.D OLE HUMLUM, PH.D UNIVERSITY OF OSLO A. NEIL HUTTON PAST PRESIDENT, CANADIAN SOCIETY OF PETROLEUM GEOLOGISTS CRAIG D. IDSO, PH.D CENTER FOR THE STUDY OF CARBON DIOXIDE AND GLOBAL CHANGE SHERWOOD B. IDSO, PH.D U.S. DEPARTMENT OF AGRICULTURE (RETIRED) KIMINORI ITOH, PH.D YOKOHAMA NATIONAL UNIVERSITY STEVE JAPAR, PH.D REVIEWER, INTERGOVERNMENTAL PANEL ON CLIMATE CHANGE STEN KAIJSER, PH.D UPPSALA UNIVERSITY (EMERITUS) WIBJORN KARLEN, PH.D UNIVERSITY OF STOCKHOLM (EMERITUS)

JOEL KAUFFMAN, PH.D UNIVERSITY OF THE SCIENCES, PHILADELPHIA (EMERITUS) DAVID KEAR, PH.D FORMER DIRECTOR-GENERAL, NZ DEPT. SCIENTIFIC AND INDUSTRIAL RESEARCH RICHARD KEEN, PH.D UNIVERSITY OF COLORADO DR. KELVIN KEMM, PH.D LIFETIME ACHIEVERS AWARD, NATIONAL SCIENCE AND TECHNOLOGY FORUM, SOUTH AFRICA MADHAV KHANDEKAR, PH.D FORMER EDITOR, CLIMATE RESEARCH ROBERT S. KNOX, PH.D UNIVERSITY OF ROCHESTER (EMERITUS) JAMES P. KOERMER, PH.D PLYMOUTH STATE UNIVERSITY GERHARD KRAMM, PH.D UNIVERSITY OF ALASKA FAIRBANKS WAYNE KRAUS, PH.D KRAUS CONSULTING OLAV M. KVALHEIM, PH.D UNIV. OF BERGEN ROAR LARSON, PH.D NORWEGIAN UNIVERSITY OF SCIENCE AND TECHNOLOGY JAMES F. LEA, PH.D DOUGLAS LEAHY, PH.D METEOROLOGIST PETER R. LEAVITT CERTIFIED CONSULTING METEOROLOGIST DAVID R. LEGATES, PH.D UNIVERSITY OF DELAWARE RICHARD S. LINDZEN, PH.D MASSACHUSETTS INSTITUTE OF TECHNOLOGY HARRY F. LINS, PH.D. CO-CHAIR, IPCC HYDROLOGY AND WATER RESOURCES WORKING GROUP ANTHONY R. LUPO, PH.D UNIVERSITY OF MISSOURI HOWARD MACCABEE, PH.D, MD CLINICAL FACULTY, STANFORD MEDICAL SCHOOL HORST MALBERG, PH.D FREE UNIVERSITY OF BERLIN BJORN MALMGREN, PH.D GOTEBURG UNIVERSITY (EMERITUS) JENNIFER MAROHASY, PH.D AUSTRALIAN ENVIRONMENT FOUNDATION JAMES A MARUSEK U.S. NAVY (RETIRED) ROSS MCKITRICK, PH.D UNIVERSITY OF GUELPH PATRICK J. MICHAELS, PH.D UNIVERSITY OF VIRGINIA TIMMOTHY R. MINNICH, MS MINNICH AND SCOTTO, INC. ASMUNN MOENE, PH.D FORMER HEAD, FORECASTING CENTER, METEOROLOGICAL INSTITUTE, NORWAY MICHAEL MONCE, PH.D CONNECTICUT COLLEGE

DICK MORGAN, PH.D EXETER UNIVERSITY (EMERITUS) NILS-AXEL MÖRNER, PH.D STOCKHOLM UNIVERSITY (EMERITUS) DAVID NOWELL, D.I.C. FORMER CHAIRMAN, NATO METEOROLOGY CANADA CLIFF OLLIER, D.SC. UNIVERSITY OF WESTERN AUSTRALIA GARTH W. PALTRIDGE, PH.D UNIVERSITY OF TASMANIA ALFRED PECKAREK, PH.D ST. CLOUD STATE UNIVERSITY DR. ROBERT A. PERKINS, P.E. UNIVERSITY OF ALASKA IAN PILMER, PH.D UNIVERSITY OF MELBOURNE (EMERITUS) BRIAN R. PRATT, PH.D UNIVERSITY OF SASKATCHEWAN JOHN REINHARD, PH.D ORE PHARMACEUTICALS PETER RIDD, PH.D JAMES COOK UNIVERSITY CURT ROSE, PH.D BISHOP’S UNIVERSITY (EMERITUS) PETER SALONIUS M.SC. CANADIAN FOREST SERVICE GARY SHARP, PH.D CENTER FOR CLIMATE/OCEAN RESOURCES STUDY THOMAS P. SHEAHAN, PH.D WESTERN TECHNOLOGIES, INC. ALAN SIMMONS AUTHOR, THE RESILIENT EARTH ROY N. SPENCER, PH.D UNIVERSITY OF ALABAMA—HUNTSVILLE ARLIN SUPER, PH.D RETIRED RESEARCH METEOROLOGIST, U.S. DEPT. OF RECLAMATION GEORGE H.TAYLOR, MS APPLIED CLIMATE SERVICES EDUARDO P.TONNI, PH.D MUSEO DE LA PLATA (ARGENTINA) RALF D.TSCHEUSCHNER, PH.D DR. ANTON URIARTE, PH.D UNIVERSIDAD DEL PAIS VASCO BRIAN VALENTINE, PH.D U.S. DEPARTMENT OF ENERGY GOSTA WALIN, PH.D UNIVERSITY OF GOTHENBURG (EMERITUS) GERD-RAINER WEBER, PH.D REVIEWER, INTERGOVERNMENAL PANEL ON CLIMATE CHANGE FORESE-CARLO WEZEL, PH.D URBINO UNIVERSITY EDWARD T. WIMBERLEY, PH.D FLORIDA GULF COAST UNIVERSITY MIKLOS ZAGONI, PH.D REVIEWER, INTERGOVERNMENTAL PANEL ON CLIMATE CHANGE ANTONIO ZICHICHI, PH.D PRESIDENT, WORLD FEDERATION OF SCIENTISTS