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Old 09-07-2022 | 10:56 AM
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Originally Posted by AxlF16
GMAFB. Who needs him to 'inform' us on the market. It sounds like petulant whining to me. Seriously, does ANYONE think we don't need a significant pay raise?? If he's trying to make a point maybe he should articulate it like a grown up. Ive always supported improvements at for the bottom of the seniority list and will continue to do so, but it's pretty tone deaf for junior pilots to talk about how 'crappy' this career is and how they can make twice as much at their old job. Go the **** back then.
Lol no one junior is saying “this job sucks, I want to go back to the regional.”

They’re saying “The rates the regionals are able to cough up indicate we’re grossly underpaid as mainline pilots, as exemplified by the fact that I could go back to my old job and make more money, so we should fight for those rates”.

I’m sure AA is losing money on their LCA pay but the fact that MESA can pay $7 an hour more to first year FO’s than United is embarrassing. I don’t buy the “it’s just paying for the wind-down” crap. Air Wisconsin, while not raising pay as much as Mesa or the AA wo carriers, just gave significant raises in prep for a new 5 year deal with AA. They wouldn’t ink a new deal just to lose money on pay rates.

ZW is currently paying first year FO’s 1.20/seat to fly 50 seat CRJ’s. On top of that they’re paying overhead and accounting for profit margin. By that math NB FO’s here should be making at least in the 170-190 an hour range.

We are not currently choking the golden goose by the neck until it gives us every last egg. A 20-30 percent raise is absolutely what we deserve and the market will support it.
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