Originally Posted by
CLE to IAH
my post was not (and never should be) taken as an actual discussion marker or a researched response. My post was just to antagonize one particular poster who dominates and twists every thread and every topic with his crusade on first year pay and insults/attacks anyone who has other solutions.
i also agree first year pay is dog ****. I think our whole scale is dog ****. I am also doing my part to remedy this (which does not include using apc as a serious avenue for fixation)
couldnt agree more. An online forum would be a silly place to discuss any actual negotiation tactics. But believe it or not, your arguments are the exact same I hear all the time in the cockpit, strangely enough more often from junior captains. When specifically addressing the attrition problem, apparently they think year 1-5 guys are leaving because 12 year CA pay just isn’t enough. The kicker is that they will say (regarding raising 1st year pay) that it’s the company’s responsibility to attract people and 1st year pay isn’t the unions problem, but when the simple solution is presented, you’d think someone just came in and shot your dog or something the way you react.