Originally Posted by
Aquaticus
I am not the one posting rates for an airline that probably won't exist in 24 months on the United forum. You can't fly 550 airplanes with 4300 active pilots. Next month when they have 4200 active pilots it is worse. When everyone just hired their best and brightest the brain drain is real and the training department is in shambles. I don't know how else to lay that out there for you.
That still doesn’t change the core fact that they’re signing new CPA’s with the anticipation of using those pay rates. It means that those rates per seat are economically viable. Whether some other bear (training pipeline, QC issues leading to an unacceptable safety environment, etc) takes them down anyway is irrelevant.
The economics of flying at those rates per seat work for a subcontractor. That means they will work here. You don’t sign a new CPA where you
know you’ll lose money each hour flown. If the rates aren’t sustainable you don’t sign new contracts. You shed flying and focus on not getting whacked with penalties for failure to perform. This isn’t what is happening.
I don’t know how else to lay it out there for you. I get it, you don’t think the regionals will exist in the future. I don’t either. I just think it has nothing to do with pay rates. Why are you so hellbent on a mediocre raise? We will never have a stronger case for a historic raise than now. Some of us are stealing defeat from the jaws of victory.