Originally Posted by Hugh Betcha

Agree with all of your observations. Anyway, I was actually asking if a JB guy would answer.

Is the cabin cleanup documented as a requirement in your FOM? or is it just "we've always done it this way to be Team Players".

If there is one thing I've learned from my 88 year old MIL is that Judge Judy requires everything in writing, but from my observations, contract negotiations, NOI investigations, can use historic acceptance of unwritten duties as precedent.

Originally Posted by symbian simian

Yup. Did ACMI for 7 years, did my own planning, get MX done, keep things going: part of the job. Corporate for 8 years, pulled the lav, cleaned the cabin, loaded bags: part of the job. Now 121 for 10 years, make sure power and air are connected before I leave the cockpit. Cleaning the cabin: somebody else's problem.

Edit to add: Pretty sure there would be cleaners contracted in an NY minute if pilots could claim 30 minute cleaning pay.
(don't expect me to do someone else's job for free until I see our execs vacuum their office at 5pm on Friday)