Hate to say it...but end of the day what votes, the retiree or the active pilot? I am 100% for retro to include those who left before us (retiree or VEOP) be paid up to their departing date...but the union knows who votes and what vote counts...It's the active pilots. The eskimos just set a bar that isn't necessarily something Delta pilots would accept, however, it proves the point that when given a choice, pilot's will always vote what helps themselves out, and it is hard to argue for or against that.

Mongo