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Old 10-27-2022 | 11:50 AM
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Originally Posted by Nantonaku
You guys are delusional, Endeavor pilots now start at a higher rate than Delta. Mesa pilots are out earning WB A's. This is getting ridiculous, man up and stick up for your profession. Look at United, you are in the minority if you think we are willing to settle for table scraps.
There is either one of two scenarios vis a vis Endeavor that I can come up with. Management knows damn good and well that the pay rates they signed off on are unsustainable and are going to either :
1) dismantle EDV as they slowly transition EDV flying (not to be confused with EDV the enterprise) into mainline and it becomes a part of mainline. To do this, they need to grow the bottom end of mainline flying to capture what they now do. If we see orders associated with out contract, I would think this is the path they intend to follow. 2) Absorb EDV into mainline over time.


Either way, they have set a dot for pay, because they cannot prove/guarantee that these pay rates are temporary. As far as I am concerned, they need to break out their checkbook, adjust our pay rates based on EDV's and start paying us what we are worth..... annnnnnnd... with a big ole huge slice of retro to cover those guys that retired under the contract they refused to negotiate while they were taking government money.

Lastly... I don't think we see a AIP/TA until next summer at the earliest, and retro won't be in that offing.

Fire away
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