Originally Posted by
Bigapplepilot
If said violation is unintentional and doesn’t involve drugs/alcohol, and possible a few other caveats, said ‘violation’ probably falls under the FAA compliance philosophy. Lotsa pilots seem not to have heard of this. I believe this was implemented in 2015. It has undergone a name change recently.
Go on. Bet your career on a kinder, gentler FAA. The “philosophy” is not closely followed in practice. This is, of course, irrelevant. Kinder, gentler, compliance has no bearing here, unless you’re asserting that so long as you don’t act intentionally, then it’s laissez faire.
By the same mangled token, observe the big sky concept: turn off your transponder and go. Probably nothing will happen. Right?
What the hell you talking’ ‘bout, Willis?
Originally Posted by
Mr Rumbold
On COKS they say we can only log up to 8. That’s why.
You mean for you consolidation hours, or OE (or both), as opposed to logging in general?
Do you understand the difference between acting as PIC or SIC, and logging flight time as PIC or SIC?
When you are assigned to a heavy crew on an extended flight, do you think the company records in their records of your time, only eight hours, or do they show block time for that trip as your accumulated commercial flying? Given that many pilots don’t bother to log the time, but us3 company records, what do you think those records show?
What they do not do is break down your time on that trip by where you sat or what you did. If you were a crew member assigned to that flight, the record of that flight (for which you will be held accountable with regard to flight time limitations) is based on your block time as a member of that crew.
Consolidation is another matter, and the FAA Chief Legal Counsel regulatory interpretations have held that your consolidation and OE experience is required to be performed at the controls. You are limited, depending on the regulation under which you are operating, to certain limitations in that seat, and limited in the time you may apply to your OE, or consolidation. That is a separate matter from logging your trip, or your operation as a fully qualified crew member under the regulation.
When you are doing augmented operations, you don’t have the option of simply doing eight hours and going off duty, ot stopping being a part of that crew. Whether you are manipulating controls or not, your existence on that crew assignment is legally required to enable the flight and duty intervals allowed with an augmented crew. In for a dime, in for a dollar.