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Old 11-09-2022 | 09:03 AM
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Originally Posted by hummingbear
Lot of naysayers on this thread. If the situation is really so dire, why didn’t you guys just vote for TUMI? (Or maybe you are the 6%.) You had a 14.5% (read: 9.5%) raise for the taking & just turned it down while the company apparently has no vested interest in finalizing an agreement? Anyway, this contract’s been overdue for three years- why now is it suddenly hopeless & doomed?

The reality is, both sides have some motivation to get this done, & both sides have some pressure points they can access to nudge the other- which is how negotiations happen. Neither side is backed into a corner, unless we allow ourselves to believe we have no bargaining power & need to accept whatever offer the company feels magnanimous enough to grace us with.
Was a hard NO on TA1, but that doesn’t mean that I feel the union has leverage or desire now to get a deal done in near term that both sides would fine acceptable.

As you said yourself, neither side is backed into a corner. Not sure what pressure points you think exist to get a deal done near term that both would agree too, especially considering the extremely high mandate that new reps will be voted in with.

If you think the company would agree to 30-40% raises, 5 MCD for every day of work, and full 4.5 year retro I don’t know what to tell you. If you think all of these new reps would ever vote for a TA with just 20% raise and 1 year retro I again don’t know what to tell you. More importantly is what leverage does either side have to get deal done that pushes the other off these lines? I just don’t see a near term solution for a deal, that’s all. I’m not mad, just realistic and I hope Im wrong.

I don’t regret or would I change my NO vote on TA1.
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