Originally Posted by boog123

Why are you suddenly all butt hurt about retirement and what’s fair. Yes, you were hired kinda late and your seniority won’t be what you would probably like. By your own methods, you should be fine with all your skills, side hustle.

one minute your *****ing all over SM about OOBWS’s, yet nothing to Trip, who makes them his contract tool.

you seem to totally have an agenda. Perhaps that’s the side hustle. Firm coin coming in?

Originally Posted by Softheborder

$300,000 “plus up” may be the current ask..but in the 2019 opener it was $1,000,000 AND they wanted to fund it by drastically reducing the DC % for newhires for years. Think it couldn’t happen??? It’s EXACTLY what NWA did to their Junior Pilots in bankruptcy. The Junior/Newhires got 2-3% DC while those Senior “more deserving I put in my dues super premium widebody Captains”…raking in 18-20% DC. Thankfully must of the deadzoners took the VEOP. I agree with the OP….why are we wasting negotiating capital on a MCBP min balance. I place most of the blame for the Company laughing us out of room and walking out squarely on the minority Deadzoners who were VERY organized, active and controlled the MEC and drove the ask sooooo far outside the ZOR that here we are 3 years later & no contract. All this insanity about C2004 plus inflation AND 25% DC AND Lump Sum plus up….and we’ve gotten exactly nothing. 63% of all Delta pilots have never had a pay cut…we have only had pay raises….up until C2919 when the Deadzoners stopped the music….and they continue to with Full Retro blah blah blah….so the Veops can cash in. I’ll take an extra % in rates and a “signing bonus” equal to full retro and screw the Veops who have held things up and continue to do so. I’ll get excoriated for this post. The Chit Chat crowd will stroke out but I don’t GAS…