Originally Posted by
Excargodog
No, I think you believe you have leverage when you don’t and you are unwilling to objectively examine the issue because it’s not you paying the price for your error.
CLASSES ARE FULL. Yeah, some are lost out of class when they get a better offer, but a lot of the attrition - probably most of it - are guys who AREN’T Newbies. My seniority number isn’t changing every month because of the people below me leaving.
If this keeps up all the CAs (that are left) are going to be doing unpaid IOE on very low time FOs. Is that your idea of success?
Classes are NOT full. People are no showing. Mins are as low as they an get them and training capacity is maxed. Yes they like replacing a higher longevity with a first year low paid guy but only if they can continue to do that AND fly the planes 13hrs a day to be profitable. They cannot do that right now.
The time to raise first year pay was 4.5yrs ago which is one of the reasons I voted against and the time to do it is in this negotiation for all of us. Unilaterally raising first year pay is why frontier management won’t be at the table any time soon. It’s the only reason our management is even sitting down. They’ve tried everything else. They lowered mins. They increased training capacity exponentially which is not cheap btw. It requires real estate and devices we didn’t previously have. And now they still can’t fly the fleet 13hrs a day. So they came to the table reluctantly and what did they put down first? Raise first year pay only. Of course!
So yes it’s working. Was it worth having first year be so low for so long, no not imo but it’s working now so you don’t just raise only first year pay now when all the other parts of the puzzle are in place. You need to get a clue.