Hahaha didn't you just prove my point? who has done this before? its still the AR show. why did you leave out Urban? I can't imagine AR has anybody from national involved - he fired all those guys why would he want them involved now?

When i asked a union rep why Hegland was involved if he negotiated our first turd of a contract i was told: "he started as a trustee but now he's only there as a consultant. he doesn't have any say on what we put in the passes."

Dubinsky is the economist we hired to cost the contract i haven't heard of him being involved at all in negotiations.