Originally Posted by
Sunvox
In this case, I heard what I assume is the captain tell ATC something to the effect "we were cleared to cross". So . . . what I'm thinking is that the captain and likely by force of his belief the whole crew firmly believed the mistake was that of ATC and not their mistake.
Agree with all that. And like most studies of people that are in high stimulation/high threat environments and something went wrong, the individual internal "after action" report/memory/recall of events can vary widely of what one thought they saw/heard vs what really happened.
And yeah, they WERE cleared to cross;
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lNqGSNw67H8
But yeah, sucks for them, all three of them. Glad it didn't end up much worse and hopefully a learning experience for all involved.