Thread: Wait, what?
View Single Post
Old 01-30-2023 | 01:50 PM
  #31  
Lewbronski
Gets Weekends Off
 
Joined: Feb 2018
Posts: 1,264
Likes: 0
Default

Originally Posted by Profane Kahuna
But you keep criticizing the union at every turn..
Hyperbole. Buy you’re free to believe what you want.

Originally Posted by Profane Kahuna
Dismissing myself and others as “people like you” seems to indicate you can’t fathom anyone who disagrees with you.
I personally don’t think that logically follows but if that’s what you want to use as a rhetorical device, have at it.

Originally Posted by Profane Kahuna
What I’m saying is that the union has taken the unprecedented step of calling a Strike Authorization Vote. Yet in this moment, you are working against the Union. Alleging secret meetings, spreading conspiracy theories, and FUD about secret signals.
I haven’t alleged secret meetings nor secret signals. That sounds like a straw man argument to paint me as some sort of conspiracy theorist. In a nutshell, I’ve said that the signs I’m seeing coming from SWAPA aren’t encouraging.

Originally Posted by Profane Kahuna
If there was any truth to your insinuations, then of course concerned members have every right to call the union’s actions into question.

But there is no proof, no bad actions, no nothing. When the union needs everyone to be unified against the company, you keep criticizing the union.
Sorry you see it that way. I don’t necessarily think SWAPA is intentionally doing anything nefarious. Much more likely to me is that, like the company’s highly ingrained and insular culture that led to the meltdown, SWAPA can also fall prey to the legacy of the culture from which it has evolved. We all know what that culture is: we colloquially call it “SWAPA 1.0.”

Originally Posted by Profane Kahuna
Let’s all work together for a successful SAV and then go from there. We need to keep working on the senior bubbas to wear lanyards, support the union, and vote YES for a strike.

We need as much leverage as possible and leverage comes through unity.
The best pilot contract we can obtain does require unity. You’re right about that.

But it very much matters what we’re unified around. If we’re more unified around the idea of blindly pledging allegiance to a SWAPA that does not seem to be aiming for the best possible contract we can obtain, then we will end up doing what we did last time: an 84% vote in favor of the near industry-bottom contract we work under right now because, as was said over and over at the time, “If it’s good enough for Jon and SWAPA. It’s good enough for me.”

Yes, we definitely need to be unified around a successful SAV. But the best possible contract will require going much further than a successful SAV. That’s what we need to be unified around.

Our strongest leverage, and labor experts across the decades agree on this, comes in the form of the credible threat of a legal strike. We need to be unified around the commitment to using that threat (and possibly actually employing it) to deliver the world’s best airline pilot contract to our pilot group.
Reply