Originally Posted by
Deserthusker
You still didn’t answer my question. Why do pilots leave flex to come to Netjets but it doesn’t happen the other way?
Sure some places furloughed during Covid. Some took Cares money. Some did both. Ask yourself who did not do either.
I don’t think we are comparing our pay to flex. I’m sure if you see some of the signs or trucks we have going around you will see it compares To delta and regionals.
The option of the fdp going to retirement is 1/3 goes to 401k as a direct contribution the rest is paid in cash. I know it amounts to more than 6% of my salary. They also match 59% of my 401k contributions and that will increase going forward. Personally I would like more to go into my 401k to get me closer to the max but that’s just me.
As far as the bonuses ask your fellow workers what happened to those when times got tough.
I am fine with what I pay in dues.
Do the signs not read "Lowest paid in the INDUSTRY", is Flex (or every other 135 operator) not in the industry? Sounds like on message boards you want to say your pay is great, but in public it is "LOWEST in the industry"? Sounds like dishonest Union speak if you ask me.
The 6% is a BONUS its not the 401k contribution similar to your FDP but based on base salary, not if you have flown fatigued (yes, again, as your signs have said). Flex matches 100% of your contribution up to 6% of your base pay.
Nobody can say what will happen and you SURELY cant say NJ is immune to a slowdown. If just happened the last slow down was great for private jets, next one may not be. If your FDP goes away (since you are not flying), you are taking a tremendous cut in pay.
As far as people leaving FLEX for NJ (or the other way around), I cant say why, I would be happy to hear from someone to see why they left. I dont believe it was due to pay. Even on this website "3yr FO pay is a day rate of $458" (on the 72 schedule), 3 yr FO pay at Flex is $544 however at that point you have upgraded to CA and would be at AT LEAST $690 (or possibly $790 if you are in a Mid).