Originally Posted by
Nightflyer
So the attitude of "screw the old guys" is ok with you? How's that going to help unity?
I might add that in 2015, new hire pay rates were increased, while retirement was not. So once again, new hires benefitted, at the expense of our retirement.
You got yours, but you want to screw the old guys out of the retirement that they earned? And then you say I have an attitude problem? Your attitude is exactly the problem, not mine.
Retirement needs to be fixed. Pay rates need to be fixed. What's wrong with fighting for both?
The irrelevant/insulting part is thinking that somehow because one's first position at Purple wasn't Flight Engineer that they somehow aren't entitled to an opinion. It would be like me saying, "if you didn't spend the first four years in the gooney bird droning around with no radar or deicing equipment then count yourself lucky and take what you get son." Contract 2015 created the largest systematic seniority abrogation in Purple history. I think there is value in educating new hires that went directly to the 777 about what life is like for domestic flyers but it's not their fault that they took a position offered to them as a new hire. You lose the argument when you start trying to poke holes at the person you are communicating with by suggesting that their point of view isn't valid solely because the career paths don't look exactly the same.