Originally Posted by
Nightflyer
My time on the panel is not irrelevant. It took me 8 years to get to right seat wide body pay, then I was stagnated for 5 years (plus one more for the over 60 guys jumping back ahead of me) before I could hold Captain. How is that irrelevant when we are comparing careers to people who went straight to the right seat of a wide body? Again, the entitled youngsters, who were handed right seat wide body pay as a new hire have zero appreciation for those that went before them.
If you had been anywhere else in the industry you would have been furloughed. your personal bad timing doesn't give you a better platform to pontificate from. If anything you should be grateful for that time on the panel instead of being furloughed.
Newhires today can get hired into the right seat of widebody at DL, UA, etc... That's the new industry norm. They've paid their dues flying RJs. Did you ever have to fly an RJ for foodstamps? Probably not.
Also, if the retirement is fixed, the young guys will benefit as well. How is that "screwing the young guys" by fixing the retirement? I would say that is leaving the place better than you found it, as you want.
Don't get me wrong, we're absolutely excited to see the retirement fixed and would love to see retro retirement (and retro everything) become the new standard for all negotiations, but work rules, pay, QOL are equally important and we're not going to sacrifice those just to give a certain group their golden parachute retirement.
You will have your chance to vote no. Let's see if you use it.
Maybe you can join us in voting no to make up for your "yes" votes earlier this century.