Originally Posted by Nightflyer

I voted no several times. I think, but don't remember, I might have voted yes in 2006, and I know I voted yes in 2012. It would have been stupid to vote no in 2012. It was vote yes and get 3% or vote no and get nothing. It was a stupid vote but you had not choice. I know for sure I voted no in 2011 and 2015. I also voted no on the first contract, which was defeated.

I don't see "my own delusion" because I voted no several times, but not always.

The MEC and the NC committee are responsible for what was in the TA's. I only got to say yes or no, and I voted no plenty of times.

Even if retirement is fixed, but the pay rates are insulting, I will not hesitate to vote no again!

Why don't you want to see the retirement fixed, if not to spite the old guys?

Why does this have to be young vs. old?