Old 03-06-2023, 04:30 AM
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Myfingershurt
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Originally Posted by chihuahua View Post
The military hires you right away and pays for your training as well as paying you. The military also doesn't promise everyone that graduates from the Air Force Academy a pilot job, and they certainly don't promise enlisted 18 year olds they'll have a job flying a plane, then tell them "we aren't going to pay you until we're ready, but we don't know when that will be."

It's not the same thing at all.

This is all just about using the civil courts to make sure they'll have a guaranteed amount of pilots so that their operation doesn't collapse all at once. Nothing more, nothing less. I'm sure enrollment is going to be through the roof now that it's known that they might not give you a job right away and if you leave to somewhere that will, they'll sue you. Envoy starts paying people while they wait for a class date, so that's why those guys went there.

As I said, this whole thing has been decades in the making. This is the same playbook from 2005, no changes.
It’s a little worse than 2005. In 2005 you could hires 18 yr olds with 250 hours and a wet commercial cert. and pay them $19/hr.
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