I think that VB laid it our pretty well. We used to have pretty good involvement and interchange between our union scheduling group and the company. They were able to work out a lot of problems. Our latest scheduling VP has stopped all that and feels that if a trip is legal by the contract, it is good to go and no comments from the union are necessary. Like VB says, sometimes the company gets enough line pilot input in the form of fatigue calls to change a trip, otherwise we pretty much suck it up and tough it out. We're tougher than those purple crybabies