Originally Posted by
oncewasgood
The article stated that Isom was in favor of matching “quality of life” terms of Delta. So by his words he understands it’s more than pay. We all know though that if a CEO talks regarding negotiations he/she is most likely lying. You can’t fault him though for propping up just the pay issue because that is what pilots mostly focus on. Use this forum as an example. Most are only worried about a pay rate. Delta has PBS, lacking vacation and no pension but we are laser focused on just the Delta pay rates.
I think you are seeing many talk about pay rates lately because the only things left to negotiate are compensation and duration. In any case, it doesn’t matter to me that delta has pbs or their vacation isn’t as good or they don’t have a pension. I feel that for what we do, especially compared to what delta (passenger airlines in general) do, we should have the best of everything because I feel we deserve/earned that. I hope you feel the same way. We deserve the best line bidding, best vacation, best retirement. So yeah, I expect delta and others to have pbs and no pension and not as good vacation. That makes sense to me. It doesn’t make sense for us to have the worse things they have because I believe that our job is more demanding in many ways.
Originally Posted by
pinseeker
You should change your name to Unusual Ineptitude. What does this have to do with anything? So, what is your seat, date of hire, years until retirement, and last four of your first born?
What a stupid question!
By my "methods," you think I want to leave ALPA? Put down the crack pipe. Stating that those of you who are complaining about what is included in our openers now should have been speaking up two years ago has nothing to do with anything except that you are now acting like Veruca Salt. Two years ago quite a few of you were extolling to virtues of being at FedEx and some were bragging about their pay on the salary survey.
I get that you don’t feel it’s a realistic position to want to change what we are asking for while in mediation. Let me ask you about a hypothetical though. What if whatever a TA says gets voted down. Would you then be for revisiting other items?