Originally Posted by
CheapTrick
Well, if I have to spell it out... you'll know I don't know what it stands for. But, basically FAR restrictions associated with long haul flying. (Not really even FAR restrictions but more like a self-imposed agreement with the FAA to fly long trips not covered by the FARs. UAL/AMR doesn't do what we do.) For example, every JNB trip requires you to have 3 nights without flying before you can go out again and 24 hrs off before the trip. So, a 5-day trip has a 8/9 day footprint on your schedule. FRMS might mean Freaking Ridiculous Monkey Shxx or something like that.
Always interesting when people post without knowing what they are talking about with regards to other airlines.
FRMS= Fatigue Risk Management System.
Used to allow US Carriers the ability to operate Ultra Long Range/Haul flights. United has been doing this program for many years and it was actually part of the framework that the union/management pushed when doing our 2016 contract extension.
It limits your time “off duty” pre flight, and also post flight duties.
Won’t speak of what Delta does, but the 8/9 day footprint isn’t the same on our end.
That being written, Some of the most senior trips on our side are FRMS trips that pay high for number of days away.. and also double crewed! IF you’re able to get actual sleep for 5-6 hours on a 7 hour break- not a bad gig.
Motch
PS) on our 78’s we have two bunks with mattress’s.. so can’t comment on the air mattress thing but do remember back in the day the issues Delta had with their contractual crew rest on the A350’s.
PPS) looking at Apr awards on the 78FO side, you see someone who has a EWR/JNB on 4-7 and again 10-13. Based on when they get back on the morning of the 7th, and leave again on the night of the 10th.. totally legal.
10 day stretch, 2 pairings of 4 total legs, worth 30:55 x 2 = 61:50. Not to shabby.
(unfortunately they threw on a 3 day NRT at the end of the month.. still, shows 19 days off and 88:25 credit. Good to be senior~)