they’re just the same level of civil, I agree. Ha.

not directed at you:

Web boards are easy to throw down on but why people keep pumping “tempered expectations”, “Why should we get paid the same as Delta or more”, or shuffling money off QOL to pay for rates, types of mentalities. It’s ridiculous. Now is the time to get this right. For the profession. Delta raised the bar but barely. At least it was under the guise of QoL enhancement plus pay rates, no concessions. How that happened is marketplace. We sold ourselves short at DL (pay-rates are lower than should be, abandoned full retro and retirement almost completely, etc.) We took the “last and best offer” from the company because of pressure asserted by mediator. Another eye roll here. Mediator said what they needed to to get a deal done and go home. Could’ve (likely more time under mediation) done better. Many argue against that with TVM, mediation or parking for years (eyes roll). It comes down to solidarity. Hang together and this works. Hang alone and…hang.