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Old 03-27-2023 | 02:10 PM
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Originally Posted by horrido27
Catch 22-
We might not be in a time crunch to agree to just anything,
but are you, I and the rest of this group going to just "hope" we get a deal next year?
When next year comes along and something happens to our CEO, Union Chair, etc.. do we just wait another 6 months?
At what point is-
Enough is Enough

Cleaning up this weekend and came across my old Continental Contract, from 2002.
Sect 14- Sick Leave
A pilot will accrue 5 hours each bid period
When is Enough Is Enough

21+ years and no change?!

If we go into Mediation it isn't because of the Union, its because of one and ONLY one individual. He gambled- he lost.
As far as "What Mediation Brings-"
It shows a failure of this management team.
THEY love their PR.
Boom Jet
SAP Fuel
Diversity in Hiring, especially at Aviate
They want the good PR to make the public LOVE our airline.
Maybe they wont be so happy with the Negative PR that comes from requesting Mediation.

None of us WANT Mediation. We WANT, and DESERVE is a Fair and Honest Contract (ILC23) that rewards this pilot group for the Pain & Suffering they sacrificed over the last 20+ years AND to take the next step TOWARDS United Next.
But that won't happen without happy, unstressed Pilots.

Motch
I’m not arguing any of this, but we did just start over. We’ve never gone this long without an agreement, but we also had a pandemic that had a huge impact on our industry coupled with a lame MEC. We’ve started over and these guys seem to be doing what we pay them to do. We can file for mediation and have a strike vote any time we want, but as long as both parties are meeting frequently and negotiating in good faith, mediation won’t accomplish much. We need to stop looking at this as our contract has been amendable since 2019, but rather we just started over with a new bar set by Delta. Our New MEC hasn’t been at it long. If negotiations break down, I believe that this MEC will be quick to file for mediation. Until then we need to remain active, but give them time to work. Expecting this to follow personal timelines or happen quickly is about like standing in the desert and shouting “rain damn you!”. It might make people feel good to vent, but it won’t accomplish much.
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