Originally Posted by
Race Bannon
No I think my timing is pretty accurate.. The unmitigated disaster was the first rim shot which was almost 1 year ago in Jun 2022 if I'm not mistaken. It was such a colossal failure they held the vote in abeyance until almost 6 months later. That set the bar for what was unacceptable on the lower end with the sky being the limit on the top end. UAL was essentially leading the charge in pattern bargaining(not an enviable position usually). I see it as pattern bargaining off the initial spring board that UAL set. Numerous carriers easily inked deals better than our first turd sandwich. UAL is basically mimicking what Delta went through in 2015 which was TA turn down, recalls, new plan of attack(took a year)
To say we set
any kind of bar with TUMI is laughable. No one needed us to come out with that TA in order to move forward in their negotiations. We wasted time & offered nothing to the profession, plain & simple.
Again, a little history: it was AA management’s offer to their pilots to exceed our TUMI contract that first turned the tide of opinion against TUMI here at UAL- followed by DAL’s TA. (Absent those 2 factors, I’m not even positive it wouldn’t have passed here.) By the time we finally voted on our TA, we absolutely were pattern bargaining off of them- not the other way around.
I would love to be in the room when you tell a bunch of DAL/AA pilots they’re free to thank you for “establishing a floor of what was acceptable”!