Originally Posted by hummingbear

To say we set any kind of bar with TUMI is laughable. No one needed us to come out with that TA in order to move forward in their negotiations. We wasted time & offered nothing to the profession, plain & simple.

Again, a little history: it was AA management’s offer to their pilots to exceed our TUMI contract that first turned the tide of opinion against TUMI here at UAL- followed by DAL’s TA. (Absent those 2 factors, I’m not even positive it wouldn’t have passed here.) By the time we finally voted on our TA, we absolutely were pattern bargaining off of them- not the other way around.

I would love to be in the room when you tell a bunch of DAL/AA pilots they’re free to thank you for “establishing a floor of what was acceptable”!