Originally Posted by
gloopy
For DL pilots, unless a staple was iron clad guaranteed, it's all risk/no reward.
Even if that was the initial result, DALPA would spend millions for years on frivolous lawsuits.
The only way to do it, at this point, is via new-hiring from the EDV list as managemebt sees fit.
Could that be in the form of a high volume flow? Sure. That way whoever wants to bypass can do so, and no DL pilot is ever at risk of being seniority jumped.
None of this matters anyway if they don't actually move the RJ's onto the mainline. I really doubt they will do that now. The time to do so has long passed.
IMO the only way an EDV pilot ever gets to a DL 717/220 or above is by starting on the bottom of the DL list, one way or the other (flow or off the street).
It’s simple, the 9E pilots are already in an organized flow … that’s their career expectation. There are no other reasonable expectations of any regional pilot other than potentially entering a larger carriers list “at the bottom”. And … there is no defined merger policy for mergers that aren’t “in kind” … and a regional carrier and a legacy carrier were never “in kind”. And … the most senior pilot has flowed to the most junior pilot position at Delta each month. All an agreement would do is instantly flow the entire list or call it a “staple”. Both pilot groups union leaders have already agreed on this premise. There is no lawsuit possible unless you allow one 9E pilot to potentially jump one previous 9E pilot that just flowed to our most recent class at Delta. The career expectations of a regional pilot and a legacy pilot are dramatically different.
It’s a smart move and would instantly freeze any 9E Captain toying with leaving for another legacy. In fact, it could entice a lot more DEC to potentially try to get on Endeavors list before this happens. The thought is get on the list now or get on the tail end of a stapled list. It fixes everything! Deltas source of pilots, Endeavors ability to staff and it once again shows “outside the box” thinking. There is no risks with the ground rules they’ve laid out … the Endeavor guys keep the bonuses promised … the two groups accept the premise of a stapled seniority list. Otherwise, the talks would not have started.
It’s smart and it’s a good move for each carrier to reclaim their own flying.