Originally Posted by Aquaticus

Look at how many people are still roasting people in hot airplanes pre and post flight, putting on the show in first class, and being a little naive with every word from management (not just your post). They LOVE data and are watching fuel burn, sick calls, fatigue, single engine taxi, and NPS... if they can string us along with "we are close", "look at these new routes in denver", and "worlds largest airline by seat miles" they just might survive the summer. But if they don't survive the summer they are in the process of turning the screws on captain reserves domestically to the point that fatigue calls and sick calls will skyrocket and who do you think they will blame on cnbc when the operation implodes?

SKs "close" is delta rates with minor improvements sprinkled in leaving us behind almost the entire major airline category in work life balance. That isn't acceptable or worth our time considering. We will be living with these 600 pages of contract for the next 20 yrs long past Kirby or the next suit so we need to get it right. He will be retired in 20 yrs living on a lake while our pilots are being targeted for fsb assignments if we let him believe for one second that his definition of "close" is anywhere near acceptable. Fupm