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Old 04-15-2008, 08:15 PM
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a300fr8dog
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Originally Posted by atsfdx View Post
I believe everyone being excessed, senior to the junior pilot awarded HKG Captain, should be bidding HKG Captain as their first choice. All current (07-03 and 08-01) HKG Captain awardees will have a two year seat lock once activated. On bid 08-02, all excesses who bid HKG Captain, senior to the junior HKG Captain, will receive passover pay, once the junior HKG Captain activates. All of the HKG Captains seats are full, therefore, the excess pilots that bid HKG likely will not be awarded HKG, but the fact they are senior to the junior HKG Captain will trigger so much widebody passover pay that the company would be foolish not to revisit the LOA and possibly cancel and rebid HKG as well. This all works because the company cannot award a bid that would create an FDA excess.
CBA 24.C.6

Excess Crew Positions
Pilots shall be excessed from crew positions in seniority order from among those pilots who bid to relieve that excess. If an insufficient number of pilots bid to relieve a crew position posted as excess, pilots shall be excessed from that crew position in reverse seniority order. Except as provided in Section 24.C.6.b., a pilot who has been excessed, or who has bid to relieve an excess, shall be awarded another permanent crew position in accordance with his seniority and standing bid; provided, however, no pilot may be awarded or assigned a crew position at an FDA base that would cause an excess at that base.

If HKG CAP is already filled, bidding to relieve by going to HKG doesn't seem to be an option available. So, they won't award it to you, and not having the award means no passover. Just the way I read it, could be wrong. (edit: reply added, and corrected in follow on post)

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