Originally Posted by
Shaman
our current pay rates WB CA $335.56 starts at a lower comparative value and increases less than 30% over 42 months.
Delta starting at a higher number increases 31% in 36 months.
That IS NOT Industry Leading pay and if you factor in profit sharing it certainly doesn't blow anything away. In fact they barely keep up with historic marginal rates of inflation.
Sure we MIGHT have the highest payrate for a 767-300 for now but the 777 and 757 pilots will set an industry low.
So now you get credit for not giving away more in Section 7?? YGBSM?!!! This is who you want negotiating for you?!!
A good deal wouldn't have to be explained. Who is willing to give up all the rest for meager increases in retirement? We've had to live with setbacks for 8 years since the 2015 agreement. They certainly didn't mention in 2015 all the money the company would save by replacing Passover pay with slot denial pay or the material changes to scheduling. Now we're supposed to accept additional setbacks because the MEC and NC doesn't think those things are important?
R16 will heavily impact people in ANC and OAK in a time when it may take years to change bases.
the 3100+ people hired here since the last contract was signed came here knowing what the existing pension is. The idea that they'd be willing to sacrifice pay and work rules in order to get a better retirement is ludicrous.
Let me tell you why the company "gave" on retirement. They saw an opportunity to remove the least productive and most expensive workers from the top and replace them with lower paid more productive workers on the bottom. This wasn't a win for US. They are counting on those guys leaving. PM even said it in the video. If those guys leave that's more opportunities for the lower seniority guys. What he left out was to work longer and harder for less pay.
If we sign this deal we will not be cheering how good it feels to have all these retirement gains. We will be sitting in bewilderment while our incomes stay flat due to the company reducing BH and outsourcing flying that should have been ours.
MARK MY WORDS!!!!
Agree with most of your analysis. Except for one reason. The company “gave” on retirement because they could sunset the A plan on this contract and implement the pancake-lite plan (for everyone hired after 31 Jul, effectively shelving the A plan). It wasn’t enough of an improvement — in fact, to many it was a disappointment, on the retirement pay increases. This isn’t a real carrot for them to retire earlier