Flew LJs out of Andrews for 3 years where they have several GVs. Leaving one winter day on our way to Colorado we took off behind a GV, passed it in the climb to 410 and just started crusing.
Shortly thereafter the asked for a climb to 450. We talked to them on a common freq and they said that they would be crusing at .85. We were just putting along at .79.
They won
The GV is one sexy b!*ch