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Or you saying those who didn't participate in the survey are automatic no voters? Which you can't do. Let's say this AIP/TA passes 67/33 yes with 53% participation. Do we then say 47% of the people who couldn't be bothered to vote are no voters thus the contract is not actually passed?
If this actually went to membership vote and the majority voted it down( no matter the amount of apathetic people) I could at least respect that.
I don't respect trying to lump the ones that didn't participate in the survey as no voters as justification for stopping ALPA merger talks to move to Phase 2.
Now same time it is just as unfair to say 67% are for it. 67% are for looking into it. It doesn't mean everyone in that 67% will be for it after all is said was done and the details worked out.
It should have gone to Phase 2 to actually work out what a merger would look like. Then sent out to the membership to vote on. Then we can get into if the majority of the pilot group wants ALPA or wants to stay with APA. Everything else right now is twisting data to suit their argument.
Remarkably you have it exactly backwards. The party proposing a resolution is the one responsible for gathering support and interest. 47% of this pilot group showed zero interest by not voting. A third of those who did vote said adamantly NO, and the rest said they’re interested in exploring an ALPA merger. Originally Posted by joepilot50
Most? Where is that data?Or you saying those who didn't participate in the survey are automatic no voters? Which you can't do. Let's say this AIP/TA passes 67/33 yes with 53% participation. Do we then say 47% of the people who couldn't be bothered to vote are no voters thus the contract is not actually passed?
If this actually went to membership vote and the majority voted it down( no matter the amount of apathetic people) I could at least respect that.
I don't respect trying to lump the ones that didn't participate in the survey as no voters as justification for stopping ALPA merger talks to move to Phase 2.
Now same time it is just as unfair to say 67% are for it. 67% are for looking into it. It doesn't mean everyone in that 67% will be for it after all is said was done and the details worked out.
It should have gone to Phase 2 to actually work out what a merger would look like. Then sent out to the membership to vote on. Then we can get into if the majority of the pilot group wants ALPA or wants to stay with APA. Everything else right now is twisting data to suit their argument.
That is not enough interest to pursue the matter any further and it was killed. You’re trying to make the case that if there was a vote held, that the completely disinterested 47% would vote in the affirmative for your resolution? Talk about making a leap!
And how can you not understand the difference between a ratification vote on a TA put out by our collective bargaining agent, and a survey put out by a vocal separatist group within our pilot ranks?