Originally Posted by
symbian simian
I don't believe the UAL growth numbers. But if you are happy being on a NB, and we should be at NK&JB, you can look at UA as a NB operator with 14k pilots, and a separate SL with 3k WB pilots who are far more senior, but don't matter:
At 10 years you would be at 50%, if they grow to 18k, (and at 20 years with 20k pilots, 4k WB, you would be at 25%, (yes, there will be Junior WB FOs, and senior NB captains, but still).
If the merger happens, I don't see NKJB growing at 15% per year, or even doubling in size in the next 10 years. Junior captain at NK is 5 years, with 50%RS, JB 5 years is about 70%. So after JCBA 60% of 8.5k, #5100. Retirements in the next 10 years about 1500 (less than 500@ NK, don't know JB, but probably a bit higher), no growth you would be 42%, 10k pilots 36%. Not a big difference IMHO, especially if you take into consideration giving up 5 years.... (yes, numbers are based of semi-educated guesses, and things can change). But 5 years in and 20 to go I think right now the best time to go UAL would have been last year, and still would leave myself right now if I had that much time left.
Having WBs makes the progression totally different from NK(JB).
Just so real numbers are being put out, we currently are staffed at 4395 WB pilots (787/777 only) with another 1921 on the 75/76. Our 767s are slated to be retired and replaced with 787s so that even more of a % going to top pay scale.
We have about 6500 pilots on the Guppy and 2000 on the Bus.