This conversation was had last time. "We" voted in a turd. It was had in 2008. "We" voted in a turd. It's going to happen this time too. It might be a smaller turd (maybe), but it will be a turd.

For yourself, without relying on any one source, try to evaluate what true inflation is. Look at the difference in how it was calculated in say the 70s compared to now. Decide for yourself which products or services should be a real indicator of inflation over the last 4 years. Then when the turd comes out, you can decide whether we got a raise, kept up with inflation, or agreed to reduced buying power.

Then look at the work rules. If you're an AMer, you will likely benefit from LCO. If you're a PMer, you will likely NOT benefit from it compared to love up. Will you be getting screwed by the Co-Terminal language? Or will those sprinkles add to your sprinkle covered turd?

Will you finally have standard or better language for meals, hotels, red eyes, uniforms, parking, medicals? How about the big ones? Disability? NEC? NEC while out on disability? Life insurance?

Will you still be doing the FAs job of checking the GD girt bars? Then will you wait for them to go to the hotel because "that's the way we do it here!"

Come back to this post when you see the turd. If every one of these things (plus whatever I missed) is addressed properly, I'll come back and eat crow. If not, I DAMN WILL remind you all next time (my last time) we negotiate. And I'll tell you again, it's gonna be a turd. It's the way we do things here.