View Single Post
Old 01-09-2024 | 04:21 AM
  #25  
FangsF15's Avatar
FangsF15
Moderator
 
Joined: Sep 2011
Posts: 8,354
Likes: 1,379
Default

Originally Posted by TED74
Please show me a way I can do something my seniority can’t hold. That sounds amazing!

And what part of this job ISN’T gaming the system? Something tells me most of us are trying to get paid as much as we can while working as little as possible. All’s fair in love and the PWA.
YOU may be at a seniority where you could "hold it". But perhaps, for some lurkers...

The way "you" (or, at least some pilots) can "do something they cannot hold" is when they bid, for example, NYC XXX which they CAN hold, but drop thier entire schedule via "legit" means (like next day/worse coverage) and pickup entirely OOBWS in a category for which they do not otherwise have the senilrity to even be in. Or, they cannot hold a line in, say ATL or MSP, but they can in NYC. THAT is not what our seniority system is meant to allow, by end-arouding that system. Or, frankly, even pilots who are 30-40% more senior in NYC, but fly all thier trips in another domicile, be it for ease of dropping the schedule, or for better vacation bidding, or... IMO, that's beyond the intent of the PWA.

So the issue with OOBWS (to me) isn't dropping your schedule. Lineholders 'in category' do this all the time to improve thier schedule to WS broken trips. No issue with that. (though you won't ever convince me that it doesn't eventually cause Reserves to fly more - I know, I know. "That's what they are for...") becaue it's in your own category. Commuters who OOBWS from multiple domiciles, on occasion because it's a good deal DDH? Sure. Or, like I said from the start, NH"s who get assigned a category with a cross country commute. Zero isssue with NH's just surviving that first seat lock. The issue with some OOBWSing to me is, once again, bidding a category you have zero intention of flying in. They are 100% out there. If you want to fly primarily in one category, you should bid it. It can be abused to abrogate seniority. And I would support a PWA change to limit/make more difficult that practice.

I've made my case that I don't like it, but I don't want to be one of those posters who keeps bantering on and on until the equine carcass looks like a dragged roadkill. So if you still don't agree, we can just agree to disagree. We can still be friends.
Reply