true in our industry and along with several other industries as well. theres some industries out there that are a lot worse off than ours. for example, in my hometown there's a gm plant that builds 10 mpg chev suburbans and tahoes. they nixed one shift and theres talk about closing down the whole plant because no one is buying these cars. theres several other companies in the area that supplement the gm plant such as lear corp which makes dashboards and other plastic parts. they just laid off several people........ripple effect continues. that is just one example. hopefully it will all turn around.