Originally Posted by
Casualinterest
I just flew with someone who tried to call in fatigued pre report and was told he "can't". And he apparently just accepted that... You absolutely can. Whether or not it's paid out of sick or not depends on the frb. But if you're fatigued that's the end of the conversation.
If the story went like you said,
1) that pilot violated FAR 117 and needs to talk to ALPA, idk if ASAP would cover him/her.
2) ALPA needs to get on this and get the FAA involved.
§117.5 Fitness for duty.
(a) Each flightcrew member must report for any flight duty period rested and prepared to perform his or her assigned duties.
(b) No certificate holder may assign and no flightcrew member may accept assignment to a flight duty period if the flightcrew member has reported for a flight duty period too fatigued to safely perform his or her assigned duties.
(c) No certificate holder may permit a flightcrew member to continue a flight duty period if the flightcrew member has reported him or herself too fatigued to continue the assigned flight duty period.
(d) As part of the dispatch or flight release, as applicable, each flightcrew member must affirmatively state he or she is fit for duty prior to commencing flight.