Wasatch, I guess I view it differently. When I was acquired by Delta i could hold what I held before. I felt that was fair. The PFE could hold what they could hold before they were acquired. In fact within 6 months of the merger they were at the top of both FE lists in NYC and ATL because of the rapid turnover when hiring in the FE seat. They were as senior as they could possible get and now working for twice as much money. At one point there were 340 FE on the 727 in ATL. The staffing required only about 140 however they had to have that many to cover all the sick and disable FE's. Its funny no one mentions how bad they got screwed when they are bought until they are safe on the other side in the lifeboat. Then the spin begins. I still have pilots tell me how Delta put Western pilots behind Delta pilots not yet hired. A bit funny to me since I was one of the bottom Western pilots and not one Delta pilot not hired went ahead of me. Its also funny how perspective changes depending on what method of integration benefits your side the most. Get a copy of the NWA pilots position on the integration of the Republic pilots they put before the arbitrator. I think DALPA should dig it up and agree to accept it for this merger. As I pointed out once before fair is always whatever benefits that individual the most.