Originally Posted by
VisionWings
Frontier flies passengers. Each one of them has a family. We fly more passengers in a plane than our legacy counterparts. The model is of no consequence. Pay in parity with the number of passenger seats available and responsibility for more lives warrants pay in line with legacy carriers. We did not choose the model. Management did. We can however demand pay that is adequate for our responsibility. We as a pilot have all the leverage and always will. Time to train a pilot to fly the line is long. Cost is high. If we demand pay we will receive that pay.
Fact we fly people
fact we fly more people
fact management is losing money while our job is the exact same as legacy pilots with more workload.
fact planes can’t move themselves. You need a pilot.
fact we have changed “business model” before
fact business model is a management argument and doesn’t change pilot jobs.
fact southwest makes more as an FO than any legacy carrier as what you describe as a LCC and in line with captain pay.
fact our CEO and executives have made pay inline with larger operators. Why would we deserve less when they demand equal pay?
Fact we can get the pay we deserve if we refuse anything less.
The task that is performed and how hard one works at performing that task is not as important as who that task is performed for. An attorney working for a small firm will not command the same compensation as one working for a much larger firm, even though he may practice the same type of law and work harder. The profit per seat mile generateted by a legacy cannot be achieved by Frontier. Kalitta and Atlas both argued that they should be paid like UPS and FedEx. They made significant gains, but they came up short of their initial demands. I can see Frontier pilots making similar gains, but the expectation to be paid on par with Delta just isn't very realistic. I'd love to be proven wrong, but the math has to work. Anyway, I don't have a dog in the fight so I'm going to let it go. I sincerely wish you guys the best possible outcome.