I was not here for the last contract but I’ve been told the inciting event that drove Barry to show up to negotiations was nobody wanted a job at Frontier. Nobody wanted a job and Barry couldn’t expand and get new aircraft as a result. So, presto change-o we got a contract.

That doesn’t exist now. From 0 hours we offer $1000/month while you get all your certificates, an ATP, a job and an Airbus type rating. It’s a better gig by far than any regional.

until the bottomless bucket of cadets dries up there will be no contract. Doesn’t matter, IMO, how there is no open time for FO’s.