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Old 12-10-2024 | 07:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Planetrain
You know exactly what I mean.

NC- non contactable. The premise behind this is I am promptly available at SC start+0200. In exchange, I don’t need to answer my phone during those 2 hours, ostensibly for when you’re commuting airborne. It’s needed legitimately when your phone is off. Otherwise, if you don’t promptly acknowledge an award during SC, discipline can happen.

All these contractural ninjas over the last 20 pages don’t actually need the non-contactability part for commuting purposes, but they want to use it to contractually screw scheduling during the first 2 hours of SC to make the trip they are supposed to get, roll to someone else. Great idea. Might feel good as the company contractually carpet bombs us with 6 SCs a month.
Non contactable is exactly what it sounds like. Whether I am out of coverage, choose to turn my phone off, or an airline makes me is no different. I often spend time about 4-5 hours drive from my base even though I live in base. I could fly a regional flight to base, drive, fly a personal aircraft, and theoretically boat to the base airport all of which have cellular coverage issues. You choose to ignore and interpret the PWA with your own traditional bias. Your OPINION of the PWA and it's application means nothing. Your choice of the word "ostensibly" is absoluteley correct, however it's at odds with your choice of the word "legitimately." So which is it? You know you are wrong and too set in your ways (outdated attitude and bias) to accept literal PWA language. You sir are not the arbitrator of this issue, thankfully. We all are responsible adults who know when and where they need to be, as well as when they need to be contactable and when they don't (or they have come here looking for facts) so instead of creating more doubt, try helping. Those who choose to use this provision should not be mislead or shamed.

As for the increased short calls, this was always part of the PWA in fact it used to be 7 for long months. Are you attempting to apply some non PWA standard based on some past (inaccurate) assumption or expectation? The increase in short calls was an initiative to increase productivity and utilization. That is something I fully expect from management and has no bearing on or causation for people using NC. It harms commuters who choose to be RES that were acustomed to fewer SC assignments and had hoped that would continue, I agree. That is a result of PWA changes and both sides have and will continue to adapt to. I suggest you familiarize yourself with the language of the current PWA and drop any preconceived notions to better your understanding and QOL.


When you need to be in the vicinity of a/the base airport and be contactable.... only during short call
A pilot on short call is required to be within the general area of his base and promptly available for contact by Crew Scheduling and must be able to promptly report for an awarded/assigned rotation. This is undefined but is accepted to be 2ish hours.

When you need to be contactable..... during long call or short call
However, Crew Scheduling will attempt to notify a long-call pilot of a rotation, short-call period, or rest period, and place the assignment on their schedule in iCrew. A long-call pilot has no obligation to check their schedule while on call. You are not required to acknowledge any assignments on LC. You are only obligated to report.

When you don't need to be contactable.... any rest period, any non-fly day, (X day, VA day, off day) layover, 24 hours from an assigned trip on reserve, while in training, after 6 hours following the cancelation of leg 1 of a rotation, during the first 2 hours of SC after reporting yourself non-contactable


A CNO notification is only valid for changing from LC to SC (not trip assignments)

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