Originally Posted by dracir1

The MEC has updated the contract comparison for 1 Jan 2025. Everyone should take a look.

A 7 year FO at UA/DL/AA flying the 321neo makes $1/hr more than our 7 yr CA flying the same thing. Their 12 CA makes $100/hr more than our 12 yr CA. That's PER HOUR!

And when you mention average, that depends greatly on which airlines are included. JB is in negotiations (as is NK) - so, of course, their rates are less.

Honestly, AA/UA/DL and to some degree SW made this all easy. They all fly the same class aircraft (we actually fly more people) for roughly the same rate. In fact, negotiations about salary shouldn't even be negotiated. The rates we are willing to accept is the same rate everone else is currently being paid. Period. There really is no need to start high, they start low and we work our way to the middle (and hope that is around the same rate). It really should be "Here's the industry standard rate. If you're not willing to pay every cent of it for each position for each year - and honor a 4% yearly increase and snap-ups whenever warranted, then we're out." And we head towards the impasse, get cooled off then strike. There REALLY shouldn't be any other method for the rates. NOT doing this gives other airlilne mgt ammo for saying the industry average is less.

And, yes the snap up clause is very important (which DL started and received when AA came in higher) just like everone else. This is industry standard at this point.

It should be a no from all of us w/o the EXACT same.