Originally Posted by
redhot
do you not think our business model will evolve? The frontier of today will not exist years from now. You cannot just change the ship immediately.
Things will have to change. Yah I think the current versions of ULCC’s are dead and I think everyone working for them should be excited for what the future holds.
Originally Posted by
redhot
also do you want to respond on what dough said? Do you think he is an idiot and goes on a public platform and makes ******* up? No, of course not. I think he has a way better understanding of the situation then you or I do bickering on some Internet forum.
these are multi billion dollar companies. they take a long time to change.
Originally Posted by
loudclouds
lina, as much as I think you and I are soulmates from a different ULCC, I agree with redhot. Kirby and Doug are both right, but Kirby is definitely speaking from a more biased standpoint. Didn’t Doug fire Kirby a while ago? David neelman seems to have a pretty good understanding of how this stuff goes too.
the ULCC can be dead while at the same time have a high probability of spirit and frontier merging. Then the combined business can pivot towards a different model and they might just have the scale to make a difference.
i don’t disagree with y’all. Im just pointing out: one CEO says we’re cooked, another CEO says consolidation. Is Dougwiser smart than Kirby? Idk. Smarter than me I suppose.
Did Scott Munoz get it all right at United? Is Isom getting it done at AA? It’s a different world post covid. These CEOs have missed the mark at times.
Last thing I’ll say is F9 has a lot more money to lose before I start to doubt our existence. Compared to NK and JB anyway we look like the Dave Ramsey approach to running an airline. “Beans and rice, rice and beans”. But, we’re also a flee on a horse’s ass. A catastrophic mistake could really sink us. (Interpret that as you will).
Either way. We can’t keep losing money quarterly, and then have our CEO announce the results in an airplane bathroom. yippee ki yay