Originally Posted by
Lowslung
I understand that you & others believe in our EB & feel a need to defend them. I believe in them too. I just also believe they are capable of making a misstep now and then. The rationale that’s being used to defend the extensions is flawed. By your rationale, UPS, at any time, could come up with any excuse not to negotiate and we would just have to live with it. What happens if our current negotiations run into the next teamsters negotiations? What’s to stop UPS from simply saying that current economic conditions are too volatile for them to negotiate future contracts? Don’t think for a minute that this company wouldn’t string us along indefinitely if they thought they could get away with it. Ask an ex Atlas pilot what it’s like to work under a ten year contract while the company refuses to negotiate. We know for a fact that this company does not bargain in good faith. Doing anything other than holding their feet to the fire & demanding full negotiations the minute our contracts become amendable is offering them a gift. The only thing UPS understands is hardball. They play it with us all the time. The only option for us is to play hardball right back.
Bro did you quote the right person? You are making the exact argument as me! And by the way … the way I understand it is the teamsters contract comes up in August of 2028 so I could 100% see the company asking for another extension given that we have only been in negotiations for a touch over a year. My entire point is UPS doesn’t hire people it sees as substandard (although they do in reality). To say they were only going to send the “B” team is silly and likely legally probably not correct. Had we not signed the extensions we would have a new contract by now. Will it be better or worse because of the extensions? Who knows. Again water under the bridge, now we just need to focus on the future.
And unlike the BandG I totally respect the opinions of Boilers and others here. I just disagree on this